Wang Congyu began playing the piano at three and is recognised as a complete musician and an exceptionally talented pianist. His early talent earned him a scholarship to the prestigious École Normale de Musique de Paris. Wang is an internationally renowned soloist, acclaimed as a recitalist, accompanist, and chamber musician. During his brief visit to Singapore in May, he spoke with us at a cafe in Dempsey.
ESQUIRE: Have you been travelling a lot?
WANG CONGYU: Yeah pretty much. Travelling from Singapore is easy and practical—you can go to Indonesia in an hour and return at night. If I lived [in Singapore], I’d probably travel every two or three days. However, I live on Réunion Island, where travel is more challenging. There are only two routes: one to Paris—an 11 to 12-hour flight—and the other to Bangkok. Additionally, I signed up with a cruise line this year, where I’ll head to Iceland and play in Antarctica this Christmas. I only signed up because my wife will be accompanying me. I often joke with her about how many people would love to be in her position, getting a free holiday while I’m working. After Christmas, we’ll spend time in Argentina for New Year’s.
ESQ: That’s so romantic.
WQY: I don’t know about the romance but it’ll be cold. We’re looking forward to seeing some penguins. Initially, the frequent travelling felt surreal. One week I’d be in China, the next in Japan, and then off to France—it was non-stop. They say time flies when you love what you do, and I agree. I can’t imagine myself stuck in an office. I used to teach a lot and own a couple of music schools. This year, I’m opening a new school in Shanghai. While I love teaching, doing it for seven hours a day, every day, can stifle your creative side. It feels like you’re losing half your life to routine.
ESQ: Do you find yourself being less driven because of that?
WQY: You’d only be less driven if you work with people you don’t like. Being driven is about knowing who you are and where you came from. I will never forget all the things I had to go through to get by, so the drive will always be there.
ESQ: Are you looking forward to the Olympics held in Paris?
WQY: I’d rather stay away from it, to be honest. The Olympics project in Paris can be quite disorganised. Normally, when you arrive at CDG (Charles-de-Gaulle Airport), the train to Paris takes about 45 minutes. So, they have Project Olympic Paris, which is to build a train that gets you to the city in 20 minutes.It’s set to finish in 2029 but the Olympics is happening this year. So French right?
ESQ: At least, there’s gonna be a super-fast train at the end of it.
WQY: Yeah, I suppose. But on the downside, Paris faces frequent strikes due to understaffing. In China, they’ve proved that it’s possible to build a hospital in five days, whereas in France, it could probably take five years. There was a scenario where the mayor expressed concerns about insufficient funds and manpower, leading to doubts about the readiness for Project Olympic Paris. When attempts were made to bring in additional workers, it sparked a strike due to a perceived lack of funding.Now, they’re considering shuttle buses instead of trains for the Olympics. Can you imagine the logistics? It seems best to avoid Paris during the Olympics; considering the exorbitant prices of three-star hotels, charging up to €500 a night. I’m always glad to be back home in Singapore
ESQ: So why live on Réunion Island?
WQY: My wife is from Réunion Island and is the main reason I chose to live there. We met when I was studying in Paris. She was doing an internship and we connected at church as students. We got engaged however, I had to return here to serve national service while she went back home and we eventually got married. But since my career breakthrough with Steinway, I had to travel more than before. However, it’s anything but routine. Travel brings new experiences. You never know what surprises await. Travelling feels like constantly putting out fires, solving new problems daily. You might miss a flight due to a forgotten form to fill in or end up in a strange hotel room with six others. The unpredictability keeps things interesting.
ESQ: Do you have a favourite destination to perform in?
WQY: It depends. Each country offers unique cultural experiences, and even cities within the same country can vary greatly. If I had to choose, I would say my favourite destination to perform in is Italy. [It] seems to check all my boxes: they got history, they got the views, incredible food. You can find anything you desire inItaly, after all, that’s where the piano and the violin were invented.
ESQ: You’ve been playing the piano since you were three. How have you managed to sustain your passion and interest in the piano?
WQY: I think there’s a misconception that all musicians have to start early. While many successful ones do, I started at three but only became truly interested around 12 or 13. This gives me an advantage when it comes to teaching because I understand the difficulties that can make learning annoying and uninteresting. Learning an instrument should come from within, not from external pressures. If your parents are forcing you, or you’re only practising to pass an exam, that’s not passion; it’s just fulfilling obligations. This is becoming more challenging with social media. Kids today can quickly find tutorials on YouTube for any song, but they don’t realise the hours of practice required to master apiece. Learning an instrument isn’t just about the instrument; it’s about understanding your body and how it reacts to the music. Many people get confused about this. There’s also a cultural aspect. In European families, parents might be overly encouraging even if their children are not very talented. Conversely, in Asian families, even if you play well, your parents might think it’s not good enough. It can be frustrating.Even now, when I practice at home, I sometimes feel that my mom is annoyed by my playing. She never attended any of my concerts until recently, and that was only because the Minister of Culture was there and she wanted a photo with him.
ESQ: Have your parents accepted you being a professional pianist?
WQY: Yes, a long time ago. When I came back for National Service, they kinda accepted it. At that time, I believe I was one of the few Singaporeans who dropped out of school to pursue music. Naturally, my parents were against it. For me, the only goal was to survive. Sometimes in life, when you don’t have a choice, it can be the best thing that happens because you either make it or fail. In Singapore, we have so many options and safety nets that it can be easy to lose sight of your dreams. That was my life in secondary school—teachers said I was good at certain things and should pursue them but I wasn’t passionate about any of those paths. First, if I hadn’t made it, I wouldn’t be doing this interview. Second, if my parents had supported me, I might be successful but I wouldn’t be as motivated. That’s why I own music schools, organise festivals and help young people with their music careers. I enjoy those things and it keeps me driven. I could have just opened a school and retired comfortably, but I chose a different path. Most musicians just practise and disregard the public relations aspect. While you can hire someone for admin work, building personal relationships and selling your art is a skill every musician in this era should learn. I was a student practising in a room for 10 hours a day, unknown to anyone. Then I met an agent who taught me how to market myself, and it changed everything.
ESQ: Are things different now compared to the past, especially with the rise of social media?
WQY: For sure, things are very different now. Today, you’ll need to be the first to respond to get the gig. That said, 99 per cent of the time, it’s luck—being in the right place at the right time; meeting the right people. It’s all about probabilities.Now, everything is digital. Interviews can be done over the phone, via video call, or by e-mail. The rise of social media and digital communication has dramatically changed the landscape, making everything faster and more immediate.
ESQ: You mentioned that you went to National Service.
WQY: There isn’t an official vocation for it but when I was in the band during National Service. I was appointed to the SCDF(Singapore Civil Defence Force) and When I was a recruit, they reviewed my profile and saw that I had a degree in music. It was pure luck that I met a guy recruiting musicians for his band and he invited me to audition, even though I told him I don’t sing. He assured me it was fine, so I auditioned and got in. For the rest of my NS life, I just played the piano.
ESQ: What was that like?
WQY: As a classical musician, I had never really dabbled in pop-music. When you’re part of the band, I had to improvise and play with others, which meant practising different genres. They offered incentives: if I play a certain song, I could get a day off. If I rehearsed a piece and the commissioners were pleased, I get two days off. By the end, I had accumulated about 70 days off.
ESQ: Do you feel less nervous in front of an audience?
WQY: I still get nervous when there’s a high chance of messing up or when I don’t feel ready. There’s always a professional conscience reminding me if I’m not adequately prepared.
ESQ: Any rituals before you go on stage?
WQY: Yeah, I like to eat pasta before a concert. It brings back memories. I ate pasta when I was really poor. Pasta with cheese brings me back to simplicity. Eating carbs before a concert gives me energy, makes me feel good, and gives me a sense of control. Now that I consider myself successful, I’m still eating pasta. The dish always played a big role in my life, especially during important moments. Whenever I win a competition and it’s late at night with everything closed, pasta is usually the only option.
ESQ: You’ve established the Piano Island Festival.
WQY: That idea came from my desire to minimise travel and bring renowned teachers to a central location. It evolved into a gathering where I could meet my musical idols. One of the highlights of organising the festival was having Đng Thái Sn. He was the first Asian winner of the Chopin Competition and he agreed to attend my festival which was such an honour Interestingly, there’s a unique connection to Réunion Island.During the Vietnam War, the French exiled the Vietnamese king to Réunion Island to prevent a revolution. One of the king’s descendants, Dorothy, is a family friend I met in church. ĐngThái Sn’s mother, was the first piano teacher in Vietnam and was curious about this royal lineage. When Đng Thái Sn joined the festival, his mother, then 103 years old, wanted to explore their heritage. I mentioned how having luck is important but this series of events shows how luck and destiny can work together.
ESQ: How has public interest in classical music evolved in Singapore since the pandemic?
WQY: Interest in classical music has grown a lot in Singapore lately. After COVID, in 2022, I played at Victoria Concert Hall. At that time, we could only fill 40 per cent of the seats; so about 200 people filled a 600+ seated space. However, two months ago, I had another concert here and it was a full house. The tickets were more expensive too so it’s not about the money but rather a sudden surge in interest. There’s a noticeable development in young people’s interest in music, not just classical but in general. When Taylor Swift played here, it was crazy.
ESQ: How can the Piano Island Festival boost the local classical music scene?
WQY: I hope to use it as a platform to introduce this art form to those who are unfamiliar with it. Southeast Asia holds many potential because of its growing population and increasing number of children learning instruments. Singapore is an ideal location for this. We have excellent instruments, a robust education system and a strong infrastructure. Ultimately, it comes down to the educational system to incorporate music and provide children with the opportunity to learn music in school.
ESQ: In 2020, there was a survey saying that artists were non-essential, what are your thoughts on that?
WQY: I posted about it. I think it’s inaccurate because it’s based on opinions from people who don’t understand music or the arts. If you survey 300 office workers, you’ll get responses from an office worker’s perspective.When I left Singapore, the situation for musicians was much worse than it is now. My parents believed there was no future for musicians here; there was some truth to that. In France, I can play up to five concerts a week, even in the same city but in different venues. I couldn’t play in the Esplanade Concert Hall twice a month. Singapore is highly developed, which is why it couldn’t support local musicians at that time—they weren’t considered good enough. The expectations were too high. It’s like recruiting football players and expecting them to be the next Messi. You can’t escape the reality of our artistic careers. We must Travel. I believe the next developing markets are Indonesia and then Malaysia. Even if you’re based somewhere, like me, travelling every three days, you can’t avoid it.
ESQ: Do you believe adjustments are needed in Singapore for careers in the arts to receive proper recognition?
WQY: I don’t think Singapore needs to undergo any major changes. In fact, Singapore already possesses a thriving market for the arts.It may surprise you to learn that there is a significant population of affluent individuals residing here. This became apparent to me after I had the opportunity to mingle with this demographic. Once you become part of this network, recommendations start pouring in, and one connection leads to another. When I was younger, living in Singapore, my routine was ordinary: attending school, enjoying local cuisine like chicken rice and focusing on my studies. On the flip side, there are people residing in Sentosa. They have beachfront homes with yachts. BeforeI knew it, I found myself aboard a luxurious boat, surrounded by individuals discussing the local vibrant art scene. It was fascinating to discover wealthy individuals who appreciate the arts but they also invest in them.
ESQ: How do you stay creative?
WQY: I disconnect from the Internet during the day. You have to belike Tarzan or Luke Skywalker to be creative. If you’re just another person going to the office, setting up your desk, typing, shutting down your computer, and going home, you’re living robotically. That stifles creativity. To be creative, break out of your routine. That’s what I’ve been doing. I never practice more than twice a day. If something isn’t working, I’d walk. I’d try different approaches—crossing my hands, playing upside down, or lying down. This keeps my practice fresh and prevents burnout. I also vary my teaching methods to keep my students engaged. If a student seems unmotivated, I might have them run a couple of laps to get their energy up. When you can’t do something, it’s rarely a physical issue. Your mind tells your body it can’t do it and you feel stuck. Learning an instrument helps build resilience. Music teaches you to solve problems and persevere. I’ve learned that I can solve problems in life and shouldn’t wait for solutions to come to me.
ESQ: Do you have a motto that guides you in life?
WQY: “Never beg for a seat if you can build your own table.” When you’re starting your career, facing rejection is inevitable. I’ve experienced it first-hand. Unlike instruments like the violin or guitar, where multiple players can perform simultaneously, the piano often allows for just one pianist at a time. With countless talented pianists out there, it’s tough to stand out. You have to create your opportunities—I formed my own music schools, organised piano festivals and built up my network of connections. This approach isn’t exclusive to music; it applies to every industry.
ESQ: It’s also trying to bounce back from failure, right? Because failure is essential for growth
WQY: Life would be simpler without it. But failures are a reminder of being human; they teach us it’s okay to stumble. I’ve noticed how people sometimes judge based on appearances. There have been instances where, despite being a featured performer with my face on the poster, I’ve been denied entry backstage simply because I wasn’t dressed in formal attire. It’s moments like these that reinforce the importance of self-confidence and staying true to oneself.
Since its inception in a riverside warehouse on Jiak Kim Street, Zouk has been the epicentre of Singapore’s nightlife. Founded by Lincoln Cheng, the 35,000-square foot club thrived in an ever-evolving industry. Its success can be attributed to key figures like general manager Benny Heng, marketing manager Tracy Phillips, and later Sofie Chandra.
Also instrumental to Zouk’s legacy was Wayne Lee, who oversaw music and entertainment. Today, Lee is the general manager of HighHouse and NOVA, two dining concepts under OUE Restaurants. On a cloudy afternoon, we talk with Lee at HighHouse.
ESQUIRE: How is HighHouse different from Zouk?
WAYNE LEE: There’s the dining element, which is quite a big thing and that extends to the rooftop when we open up in July. The whole venue is OUE Sky: there’s HighHouse and NOVA—two concepts in one venue. What I used to deal with back at Zouk was more music- based. Here, there are four pillars, which are music, food, beverage and art.
We are into our fifth month and our dining has been quite stable; most of our meal services are filled out nicely; the menu direction is quite clear. We’ve been quite successful at stabilising that.
A lot more can be done about pushing out house and techno music that we believe in and getting it out there. Which is if you look at our programming, we have a couple of international DJs coming in. They are aligned to the kind of sounds that we’re doing and we want to do more collaborations with local music collectives. Building the local scene is quite important.
Back at Jiak Kim Street, the art was a little more intense, right? Lincoln [Cheng, founder of Zouk] had all these wild pieces like Keith Haring’s “Healing Hand” but when the club moved to Clarke Quay, there were space constraints so art wasn’t the main focus. But at HighHouse, my bosses are quite keen to get some relevant pieces on the ample wall space.
ESQ: Are you art savvy?
WL: I go to art fairs, I visit museums overseas. I wouldn’t say that I’m an art connoisseur but I do enjoy the medium.
ESQ: So, what’s the idea behind NOVA?
WL: We were inspired by festivals, right? Not just music festivals but festivals in general. That was a big inspiration for the space. Coachella, for example, some of the stages themselves are built around large installations. Burning Man [culminates in setting fire to a giant effigy]. Which explains the [10-metre] star structure at NOVA. We commissioned this artist Jun Ong from Penang—we saw his work at ART SG about two years ago. He’s great at installations, basically lighting installations.
ESQ: We heard the opening of NOVA was delayed.
WL: We are reworking the interior design to make it more futuristic. We were done but felt that it didn’t really measure up to the branding yet. I feel that once NOVA opens up, everything will fall into place; there’d be more opportunities for activities like yoga, your fitness stuff.
ESQ: You had started at the magazine, Juice.
WL: Back then the [Juice] office was at Scotts Road and that was one of the reasons why I wanted to work there. I was freelancing for them. Being quite keen to continue working for Juice, I took up a full-time position after I graduated.
I was very into electronic music, which helped. I was studying journalism in Melbourne and their rave culture was quite strong and that inspired me. So, when I returned to Singapore and there was quite an interesting underground electronic music scene between 2001 and 2004. This was the period where the government was more lax on people using venues and the neighbours weren’t complaining so much about the noise. I’d write about the scene. The process was so old school that I’d take pictures with this crappy DSLR and develop the photos.
ESQ: You had to shoot as well?
WL: Yeah, I took photos and wrote the reviews when I first started. I had to develop the film at Lucky Plaza. I remember that I had to pick five photos out of the 26.
That was what got me into Juice, the love of electronic music. Not so much the clubbing and partying—those were a byproduct. Juice started to change at that point because we needed the ad revenue, right? We were a free magazine and we needed to attract more advertisers. So we moved into the fashion space but we were not fashion people. The one thing that we could tap on was that the rave culture was connected to streetwear. We brought that element in. Me and the team were inspired by Japanese men’s magazines like Popeye. We had to go to Kinokuniya and buy it along with i-D and Dazed and Confused. That was quite a good time.
ESQ: How did you get to work at Zouk?
WL: It’s really a combination of circumstances. Because I worked at Juice, I was in close contact with Zouk’s marketing team and Lincoln as well. When they opened up a head of entertainment role, sort of a music director gig, in 2011, I was the first person they thought of and they approached me for it. I had been nine years in music publishing at the time, so I thought, since I’m already doing the theory portion of it, I might as well do the practical. That’s how I got to work for Zouk.
ESQ: What’s an average day for you at HighHouse?
WL: The office starts early. And meetings take up a large part of my afternoon all the way to about dinnertime. Then, from dinnertime onwards, I try to be on the ground [at HighHouse] just to make sure service is in order; to make sure our guests are settling in nicely. On certain nights—obviously, we do some late-night programming on Wednesday, Friday or Saturdays—I try to stay late. Again, just to see how things are going. Letting my presence be felt, I guess [laughs].
ESQ: This goes beyond your typical nine-to-five. Are the hours something that you took to easily?
WL: I came on board with OUE Restaurants in 2022 so I spent a good year-and-a-half being in a regular office working regular office hours; I enjoyed it. So now I’m back to those long, weird hours, but I’m used to it, because back at Zouk, it was the same thing, right? Daytime, I’d handle the corporate stuff and at night, I’d handle the nightlife.
ESQ: But is it easier now or harder?
WL: Harder. Back at Zouk, in my 30s, it was easier. It was also different because that environment had more high energy. We had a club that hosted 1,500, 2,000 people at any one time. That was intense. But now at HighHouse, the product is quite focused so we don’t have to bring in so many different demographics. We have a certain target audience and the music direction is clearer. The total capacity at HighHouse is about 400.
ESQ: Is social media important to what you do?
WL: I think it’s super important now, man. We’re always talking about Gen-Zs relating to TikTok and stuff. I was in Shanghai two months ago and... You know 小红书 [“Little Red Book” in Mandarin]? It’s big over there. I signed up for an account because I wanted to look for vintage shops in Shanghai but suddenly, I’m fed with other content like techwear, cycling...
So, yeah. social media is important. Especially when you’re running a business establishment, right? But, it’s important that you’re tapping onto the right platform. 小红 书started out as a place where people came to discover places of interest to go to but now it’s the equivalent of Instagram in China.
ESQ: China is ahead when it comes to connectivity.
WL: I’m really impressed by Shanghai. Everything is online for them. Lose your phone in China and you’re screwed.
ESQ: Do you think Singapore can get to that stage?
WL: It’s tough because we are not a super-huge city. We won’t get to where China is but what we have right now isn’t bad. Hopefully, Singapore will get there one day.
ESQ: What was your childhood like?
WL: It was good. I was quite blessed. Parents are mostly supportive. My dad was an engineer and my mom was a school English teacher. My dad was always urging me to take up mathematics, which I hated. And then I screwed up my A-Levels so badly that he gave up. But they gave me a very comfortable childhood, a good environment to grow up in.
ESQ: Are they still on your back about your life choices?
WL: My dad passed last year but he was ok with where I am today. My mom has, well, a lot to say, you know, because I’m still single so there’s that. If it happens, it happens, right?
ESQ: How was the pandemic for you?
WL: I don’t know about you guys but it was the worst. I mean, minus the pay cuts [at Zouk and the deaths] I think it was a reset button for a lot of people that I knew and a lot of efforts were taken to sustain the business.
ESQ: The pivots.
WL: Yeah. Back then, we put 50 bikes in the main room at Zouk and converted it into a spin cycle class. Capital [a whisky bar and cigar room] was turned into a restaurant. We even worked with Lazada to convert Phuture into a live-streaming studio... that lasted for a good three or four months before they decided to do their own studio. So that was challenging but it was nice. There was a sort of team spirit going on during the pivots. And I also enjoyed some normal hours, ending at 10:30pm instead of 4am, so that was quite nice.
ESQ: Was it worrying? Because, at the time, nobody knew when they could see the light at the end of the tunnel.
WL: It was frustrating because the first year when we pivoted, we thought by December 2020 it should be over, right? Everyone believed that myth that this was like SARS and the pandemic would soon be over. But it didn’t get better and then it got worse with the [COVID] variants popping up. We had to downsize the team quite a bit. It was painful to do but it had to be done.
That gave us a new thought process in how we run the business. If you look at Zouk, you see it is trying to expand overseas to Vegas, to Japan, by working towards F&B projects combined with nightlife concepts like fine dining with ultra lounges. Since COVID, operating solely on nightlife has shown its risks, hence diversification.
ESQ: What kind of manager are you?
WL: I think... I genuinely think I operate with empathy. I’m not the sort who goes like, “it’s my way or the highway”. I try to give the team a lot of room to run and grow in... but then again I am very blessed that to have quite an experienced team, both for the front and back of the house. Occasionally there will come a time to bring down the hammer, so I’ll do it. But as much as I can, I will try not to. I usually tell everyone that we are all adults, right?
ESQ: You also get to wear a suit and tie at HighHouse.
WL: [looks at his short-sleeved shirt and jeans] Yeah, sorry to let you down. [laughs]
ESQ: You don’t dress like that at Zouk.
WL: Because we operate a dining space, so out of respect for Steven, my manager, who is already in a blazer, I try to be in a suit and tie. It was a huge change from the Zouk days. Now I’m dressed up so that people can take me more seriously. [laughs]
ESQ: Any pet peeves?
WL: Sometimes people are not willing to change. It takes a while, of course. But, in our industry, change is the only constant; we always have to adapt and flip. When you are working with an older generation of managers and workers, it takes a while for them to be flexible. It’s frustrating but you still need to be patient to explain to them and get them on the same course.
ESQ: What’s your biggest fear?
WL: My biggest fear? That’s a really good one. So far all my work in Singapore has touched on culture, right? My fear is Singapore becoming stagnant culturally instead of moving forward. I’m talking about soft culture and things like that. Generally, things have been getting better. Singapore has always been a nation that’s built on finance, manufacturing and stuff like that. And obviously, what we call soft culture is super sub, right? Our generation did well but there are still purveyors pushing the scene in music, art, design, and stuff like that, and of course, aided by the government. Sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn’t but I’m hoping the next generation can continue.
It has to be a generational effort. This generation sets the path and the next gen will come in and take it forward. Let’s talk about culture, right? Obviously, there are your Edison Chens, Shawn Yues, John Mayers, the Pharrells even. They have gone from being musicians to extend themselves into fashion, designing watches even. They have done their part. So the next generation has to take over. Tyler, the Creator, he’ll be the next wave, right? He’s going to be the next Pharrell.
Going back to your earlier question about what I’m afraid of is that: I know there are a lot of very good content creators on TikToks who are in their 20s. But can we name that many? Can we find another, for example, Tracy Phillips? I feel that it’s tough to find someone of that calibre. Maybe it’s because the scene is quite diluted as everybody is doing it so it’s hard to stand out.
ESQ: You struck me as someone who prefers to be behind the scenes.
WL: You’re right. I don’t go to events, I stay at the back of the room. Eleven years of the club scene and my social battery is at its lowest. But now with the OUE Sky project, HighHouse and NOVA, I do have to be at the forefront of things to help push the brand.
ESQ: Along with Lincoln and Tracy, your name pops up as one of the few architects of the way the club scene is.
WL: Thank you for saying that. I appreciate it. It’s nice that in the course of what I’ve done, at least, my efforts have amounted to something.
ESQ: What do you like to do in your free time?
WL: I used to skateboard when I was younger but I’ve stopped. I’m trying to get back to the board again. I [laughs] can’t do the ollies and stuff. Actually, I cleared one but these days, my risk appetite is a lot less. So I just cruise along East Coast Park. It’s that or running.
ESQ: Do you fear getting old?
WL: Definitely. I think it is on everyone’s mind but—and this is going to sound corny—it kind of pushes you to do more each day because you know time is limited.
ESQ: Was this a recent realisation?
WL: I’m 43 going 44 and I think when you hit your 40s, you tend to think a lot more about the time that’s left and how much more you can achieve. Sometimes I can’t believe I’m middle aged, but it is what it is so you have to make the best of it. [points to his tattoo] “Memento mori”. Remember that you’ll die so you’ll appreciate life. [laughs] This all sounds dark.
ESQ: What’s that one book you always go back to?
WL: One of my favourite authors is Paul Auster, who died recently...
ESQ: I love Auster’s metafiction.
WL: Power, right? He passed away a few days ago. Very sad. Lung cancer. [thinks for a while]. [Haruki] Murakami is another. I’d usually return to Kafka by the Shore.
ESQ: Was that an introduction to the rest of Murakami’s work?
WL: That would be Norwegian Wood. Another book would be JD Salinger, [The] Catcher in the Rye. These are the few books that I’d reread if I had the time.
ESQ: Do you have enough time to do so though?
WL: The funny thing is that if the book is on a Kindle, you don’t read it as much as when it was a paperback. But I still buy books on Kindle due to space constraints, right? And my concentration on a Kindle is so limited. Ten pages and I put the device down. When it comes to the tactility of it, paperbacks can’t be beat.
ESQ: I usually borrow from the library so the due date forces me to finish it.
WL: That’s amazing. And that brings me to this one habit that I feel all of us should adopt, and that is, before sleeping, instead of going through Instagram, we should read. It’s tempting to pick up the phone and scroll through our social media but I’m trying to return to flipping the pages in books.
This interview was edited for length and clarity.
Photography: Jaya Khidir
Art Direction: Joan Tai
Photography Assistants: Nowo Kasturi and Ng Kai Ming
